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people give biden such a hard time, he's the gaffe machine. i remember when biden was known as a really good communicator, and you know what? there's a difference between biden and obama and how they are in debates and how they approach crowds. biden looks for the guts of the audience and pitches the message to their guts. i'm sure to see how biden does it. >> he's been there and paul ryan has not. >> i think next time if it's a boring debate, we should bring in herman cain, rick perry and newt gingrich just for fun. >> herman cain would be winning right now according to herman cain. >> you've heard our initial reactions. up next we have reactions from the heartland and the capital. we go to des moines, iowa and go to luke russert in washington to see where one of these candidates will end up. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic
people give biden such a hard time, he's the gaffe machine. i remember when biden was known as a really good communicator, and you know what? there's a difference between biden and obama and how they are in debates and how they approach crowds. biden looks for the guts of the audience and pitches the message to their guts. i'm sure to see how biden does it. >> he's been there and paul ryan has not. >> i think next time if it's a boring debate, we should bring in herman cain, rick...
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. >> there's a lot of pressure on joe biden. that can be dangerous because he tends to get over his skis, but i think he'll be well prepared and they will be a lot more aggressive this go-around. >> you served with joe biden, what would be your advice to paul ryan. a lot of republicans seem overconfident how well ryan will do against ryan. mistake? >> the question that ryan has strong appeal, particularly in the midwest, just his personality, joe is joe. the slip-ups that you see are ones that were regular part of the menu when he was chair of the foreign relations committee and later chair of the judiciary. but it will be entertaining. joe is always entertaining. and i think you're going to see a very substantive debate with ryan. he is a master of factual presentations and i think you'll see a solid debate on the budget. >> jackie, one of the things i like to remind people, joe biden won almost all the debates over hillary and edwards. >> look what he did with the sarah palin debate last cycle. everyone thought that could have
. >> there's a lot of pressure on joe biden. that can be dangerous because he tends to get over his skis, but i think he'll be well prepared and they will be a lot more aggressive this go-around. >> you served with joe biden, what would be your advice to paul ryan. a lot of republicans seem overconfident how well ryan will do against ryan. mistake? >> the question that ryan has strong appeal, particularly in the midwest, just his personality, joe is joe. the slip-ups that you...
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i don't think biden is good at it. we could have an over reaction biden show. second, there's one point and i agree totally with what john said, you saw what the country did, the guy who won massachusetts tonight. they've been afraid in the recall -- romney campaign to do that because they're over sensitive of criticism from the base. i think the base is going to be silent tomorrow because they tasted losing for a week. tonight they're tasting winning and i think you're going to see republican party get very much on board a winner now. if that continues, romney will be romney, the one we saw tonight which i think is actually the most authentic romney. the obama anyway litigate flip flopping. we'll see what the next week will look at. >> rose: i want to come back to that but john dickerson tell me about the medicare argument and obama says he prefers now and like the sound of obamacare. who won that particular argument about obamacare and what it does and whatever romney's proposing and what that will do, including what ryan says about vouchers. >> well, the who
i don't think biden is good at it. we could have an over reaction biden show. second, there's one point and i agree totally with what john said, you saw what the country did, the guy who won massachusetts tonight. they've been afraid in the recall -- romney campaign to do that because they're over sensitive of criticism from the base. i think the base is going to be silent tomorrow because they tasted losing for a week. tonight they're tasting winning and i think you're going to see republican...
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joe biden, paul ryan. thanks for being us with tonight. good night from denver. so make your case and you don't want the government to help the economy welcome but don't give he this small-government stuff. come on! [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or, "no comment." then there's...
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look at the jobs, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buied as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he turned to the moderator and asked him to change the subject. let's move on to something else. we're not going to move on to something else. this is the issue of the moment. >> at one point during the debate, governor romney acknowledged his plan is basically a voucher program for medicare, and i'm curious how that will go over in florida. >> he acknowledges for current beneficiaries, people on it now or about to retire will have the exact same medicare they've always had. he said for future generations like paul ryan, like me, when we retire, we'll get subsidy support from the govnment. it will match the level of medicare. if we want to stay on regular mode care, we can do that, or we have a choice. go out and buy private medicare. if you are very rich, my generation, you have to pay a little more. it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/rya
look at the jobs, unemployment rate, the suffering of the american middle class, buied as joe biden reminded us. the policies of barack obama. he turned to the moderator and asked him to change the subject. let's move on to something else. we're not going to move on to something else. this is the issue of the moment. >> at one point during the debate, governor romney acknowledged his plan is basically a voucher program for medicare, and i'm curious how that will go over in florida....
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i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely different animals. and we haven't seen him do a lot of debating. so, you know, let's hope that he doesn't show up as rusty. if not, it will really build on republican momentum. and i think it will change the tone of this race. two debates where the republicans can really change it. >> a lot of the president's supporters didn't think he spent enough time preparing for this debate. romney spent a lot more time preparing than the president did. how much time between now and next thursday should the vice president spend? get rid of his campaigning and start practicing, practicing, practicing a debate against paul ryan? >> look, first of all, mitt romney's been in dress rehearsal for opening night on broadway for five years. there's no way you can take that much time off. but that aside he had a great debate performance and i don't want to downplay that. it was a good debate perfor
i agree joe biden is a good debater, but he's also rusty. the last debate he had was against sarah palin. i think debating paul ryan and sarah palin are two completely different animals. and we haven't seen him do a lot of debating. so, you know, let's hope that he doesn't show up as rusty. if not, it will really build on republican momentum. and i think it will change the tone of this race. two debates where the republicans can really change it. >> a lot of the president's supporters...
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mitt romney used vice president joe biden's own words in describing the middle class's struggles. >> you think by closing looph e loopholes and deductions for the well-to-do, somehow you will not end up picking up the tab, then governor romney's plan may work for you. but i think math, common sense, and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans have been buried. they're just being crushed. middle income americans have seen their income come down by $4,300. this is a tax in and of itself. i'll call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. >> earlier in the week, vice president biden had said the middle class has been buried for the past four years. the issue they came closest to agreeing on, social security. the candidates here last night also sparred on other issues, including job creation, deficit reduction and health care. >> the presidential candidates will next square off on october 16th in long island. the second debate will take place on the campus of hofstra university, and it will be in the format of a t
mitt romney used vice president joe biden's own words in describing the middle class's struggles. >> you think by closing looph e loopholes and deductions for the well-to-do, somehow you will not end up picking up the tab, then governor romney's plan may work for you. but i think math, common sense, and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans have been buried. they're just being crushed. middle income...
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joe biden, paul ryan. thanks for being us with tonight. good night from denver.
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we saw joe biden openly mocking him just a few minutes ago in a speech in iowa. was mocking mitt romney saying that there was a whole bit about how mitt romney has suddenly discovered the middle class and that patented demonstrative way that joe biden can do it. plouffe also called mitt romney -- his performance thee at tricklely aggressive. they're using a euphemism about the next go-around saying the president will certainly be making some adjustments. those are going to have to include to satisfy a lot of people, including some of his core supporters, a much more aggressive stance and hitting back against mitt romney in some of the claims he made last night. >> nbc's mike viqueira, robust as ever. thank you, mike. >> reporter: thank you. >> stay with us. the day's "top lines" are coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] you've reached the age where you don't back down from a challenge. this is the age of knowing how to make things happen. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask your doctor i
we saw joe biden openly mocking him just a few minutes ago in a speech in iowa. was mocking mitt romney saying that there was a whole bit about how mitt romney has suddenly discovered the middle class and that patented demonstrative way that joe biden can do it. plouffe also called mitt romney -- his performance thee at tricklely aggressive. they're using a euphemism about the next go-around saying the president will certainly be making some adjustments. those are going to have to include to...
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if joe biden is the answer i don't know what -- want to know what the question is. look, senior citizens, republicans -- the nice thing is we have had decades of dealing with democratic demagoguery on seniors issues whether it be social security or medicare or both. so look we are well aware -- the first stage in a democratic campaign plan is minority turnout plan. the first page and the republicans is, how do we make sure we don't get heard among senior citizens so this is something our campaigns are very aware of. we have messages that we have tested in response. yes it is effective. you test a democratic attack versus a republican response attack and basically it plays to a tie so i don't think it's going to be the game-changer for the house that the democrats you know, think that it is. the one thing to keep an eye on actually more than cedar citizens on this issue are near seniors, those 55 to 64 years old. seniors are getting medicare and getting social security. they know that the rug is not going to be pulled out from under them because there would be a huge
if joe biden is the answer i don't know what -- want to know what the question is. look, senior citizens, republicans -- the nice thing is we have had decades of dealing with democratic demagoguery on seniors issues whether it be social security or medicare or both. so look we are well aware -- the first stage in a democratic campaign plan is minority turnout plan. the first page and the republicans is, how do we make sure we don't get heard among senior citizens so this is something our...
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talking about the stack so shaky on top of a jack hammer that being joe biden. mitt romney and his sons were back stage playing jinga in the run up to the start of the debate. mr. romney took it very easy. he did meet with senior staffers very easy. calming distractions and trying to relax what is going to be biggest audience and biggest night and biggest opportunity to really display what he can offer to the nation. and contrast it to president obama. peanut butter and honey was the meal of the day and went to the cheesecake factory all about not drilling, not doing the q and a type of stuff president obama did today. romney campaign wants to make sure he doesn't leave it in the locker room. they want him to show up at the debate. >> bill: the president and mrs. obama's anniversary, right, ed? >> it is, indeed. >> bill: happy anniversary to the first couple. 20 years they have been married? >> the president's staff says since they're not going to get a chance to celebrate tonight because it's pretty intensive night tonight. they are having other plans to deal w
talking about the stack so shaky on top of a jack hammer that being joe biden. mitt romney and his sons were back stage playing jinga in the run up to the start of the debate. mr. romney took it very easy. he did meet with senior staffers very easy. calming distractions and trying to relax what is going to be biggest audience and biggest night and biggest opportunity to really display what he can offer to the nation. and contrast it to president obama. peanut butter and honey was the meal of...
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and i would say the same thing about michigan where you see vice president biden visited a few weeks ago. so, our ads have been effective. and i think you'll see more of them going forward. big picture, i don't have any doubt that bill burton and his allies will have plenty of resources. in 2008 john mccain got outspent by $250 million. in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have plenty of money. i'm not worried about that. what i'm very excited about is having the resources to respond to your attacks. >> this is actually an important point. dan eagan has an important piece that folks should take a look at. between charlie and all the other groups out there, they've had a lot of money. whether that money has been strategic strategically spent is the question. we've focused a laser on the middle class. there's a week in august where restore had an ad up about jobs, crossroads had an ad up about the debt. >> those are three republican-oriented super pacs. >> romney was advert
and i would say the same thing about michigan where you see vice president biden visited a few weeks ago. so, our ads have been effective. and i think you'll see more of them going forward. big picture, i don't have any doubt that bill burton and his allies will have plenty of resources. in 2008 john mccain got outspent by $250 million. in 2004, george w. bush got outspent by $100 million. so the unions and the super pacs on the left and george soros funded super pacs, you're going to have...
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you know what the difference is between me and joe biden? >> steve: what? >> the guy i work for knows what's going to come out of my mouth. you know what i'm saying? [ laughter ] >> thank you. i'll be here all week. >> gretchen: what did you think -- jeff and walter, what did you think of the debate last night? >> we watched together sitting on the bed in the hotel. it was sad. i think pbs is going to be frightened, don't you think so? getting ready to cut funding. they're trying to raise money by selling jim lehrer door mats. did you know that? [ laughter ] anybody can walk all over lehrer. didn't have control of the situation, did he? >> steve: not exactly. >> not control of the crowd or the guys there. he could be an nfl ref. thank you. [ laughter ] >> steve: probably to replace them. what did you think about the president? so many people on-line, the pundits talking about how the president was very flat. >> i haven't seen a brother lose his cool that quickly since cuba gooding junior did in daddy day camp. you know what i'm saying? >> brian: i didn't kn
you know what the difference is between me and joe biden? >> steve: what? >> the guy i work for knows what's going to come out of my mouth. you know what i'm saying? [ laughter ] >> thank you. i'll be here all week. >> gretchen: what did you think -- jeff and walter, what did you think of the debate last night? >> we watched together sitting on the bed in the hotel. it was sad. i think pbs is going to be frightened, don't you think so? getting ready to cut funding....
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joe biden is in iowa and mitt romney is in virginia. but who wants to talk about all of that when what you really want to talk about is the debates. a lot of claims thrown around last night. we're going to do some fact checking for you this morning. but first let's start out with a bit of a recap. of the debate was moderated by mitt romney. oh wait, we mean jim lehrer who i think it is safe to say did worse than expected. the president did not perform up to his usual standards and mitt romney came out swinging taking a very offensive approach against the president as well as jim lehrer, big barned the entire pbs crew. the debate focus around the economy as we knew it would and the candidates traded jabs over tax policies for the middle class. >> romney: under the president's policies middle income americans have been buried. they've been crushed. i will not under any circumstances, raise taxes on middle income families. >> obama: now, five weeks before the election, he's saying his big, bold idea is never mind. >> romney is saying he wo
joe biden is in iowa and mitt romney is in virginia. but who wants to talk about all of that when what you really want to talk about is the debates. a lot of claims thrown around last night. we're going to do some fact checking for you this morning. but first let's start out with a bit of a recap. of the debate was moderated by mitt romney. oh wait, we mean jim lehrer who i think it is safe to say did worse than expected. the president did not perform up to his usual standards and mitt romney...
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it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to the obama and romney campaigns, david axelrod and ed gillespie join us coming up on "morning joe." ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo sauce. marie callender's new comfort bakes. it's time to savor. ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation, every solution, comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. at unitedhealthcare insurance company, we understand that commitment. and always have. so does aarp, an organization serving the needs of americans 50 and over for ge
it's going to be on joe biden because they can't have two bad debate performances in a row. then suddenly a one-night story becomes a narrative. right. >> it's a different ball game than four years ago. >>> still ahead, senior advisers to the obama and romney campaigns, david axelrod and ed gillespie join us coming up on "morning joe." ♪ [ male announcer ] finally, mom's oven-baked tastes straight from the microwave. like oven-roasted chicken in a creamy alfredo...
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you have vice president joe biden, congressman paul ryan facing off. special coverage next thursday night. >>> just ahead, developing situation along the turkey-syria border. hours after an exchange of artillery fire, turkey's government holds an emergency session giving the green light for their troops to enter syria. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>> emergency meetings are taking place in the international community to calm the tensions now between syria and turkey. this after five turks were killed in a home along the border there. victims of syrian artillery fire. the turks retaliated. this is the first time for them. killing several syrian soldiers. syria apologized today for hitting this turkish town and promised it would not happen again and then there was this. this is a tweet from a senior adviser to turkey's prime minister tweeting, quote, turkey has no interest in a war with syr syria. but turkey is capable of prot
you have vice president joe biden, congressman paul ryan facing off. special coverage next thursday night. >>> just ahead, developing situation along the turkey-syria border. hours after an exchange of artillery fire, turkey's government holds an emergency session giving the green light for their troops to enter syria. ♪ ♪ introducing a stunning work of technology. ♪ introducing the entirely new lexus es. and the first ever es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection....
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invoking vice president biden's own word for what happened to the middle class. >> under the president's policies, middle-income americans are being buried. they're being crushed. >> reporter: and attacking the president's health care bill. >> i don't know how he could spend his energy and passion fighting for obama care, instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> reporter: the obama campaign felt good about moments when the president directly addressed voters, looking into the camera to assail what he described as romney's medicare plan for vouchers. >> if you're 54, 55, you might want to listen. this will affect you. >> reporter: and faulting his challenger for being too vague in his plans to replace health care and wall street reform bill. >> is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans to replace secret because they're too good? is it because that somehow middle-class families are going to benefit too much from them? no. >> reporter: the debate was moderated in a zen, low-key style we pbs's jim lehrer. when he included funding to be cut, he included leh
invoking vice president biden's own word for what happened to the middle class. >> under the president's policies, middle-income americans are being buried. they're being crushed. >> reporter: and attacking the president's health care bill. >> i don't know how he could spend his energy and passion fighting for obama care, instead of fighting for jobs for the american people. >> reporter: the obama campaign felt good about moments when the president directly addressed...
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week will be the vice-presidential debate in which i think paul ryan will do quite well against joe biden. you could have the situation where they wrap up two debate victories before he gets back on the field. so whether the poll numbers move or not, we'll wait to see, buttal all the other elements you want to see. having the narrative go your way and the grasset reus and your troops be energized. this couldn't have come at a better moment for mitt romney. >> there's been some discussion. the democrats trying to push, the twitter hash tag #testymitt the way he moved around jim lehler. once you take a punch right in the jaurks it takes them some time to get their legs. i expect barack obama to come back in two weeks and be far more effective. but the spin from the democrats, i've got to admit, has been pretty weak. >> if you are in charge of prep for them over the next two weeks, how would you alter strategy, if at all? >> well, the for matt is an interesting one that should play to barack obama's strength. it's a town hall format. you'll see a far more aggressive president and he'll try t
week will be the vice-presidential debate in which i think paul ryan will do quite well against joe biden. you could have the situation where they wrap up two debate victories before he gets back on the field. so whether the poll numbers move or not, we'll wait to see, buttal all the other elements you want to see. having the narrative go your way and the grasset reus and your troops be energized. this couldn't have come at a better moment for mitt romney. >> there's been some discussion....